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Comment by Patrick Mahoney on February 10, 2011 at 7:35pm

Lizzy?

 

OmG, I had forgotten all about this....thanks for 'reminding' me.....

 

This site is a great place to chill when things get nutso. (As it has this week for me; though the pain of getting sucked out of my calm space for a bit is going to be well worth the cost, as the benefits are like MJ Smith has stated.

 

Its so wonderful that you sparked this back today, Lizzy....and American Indian friend is here too, as I seemed to have called up that spirit in my battle cry for Tibetans  (I likened the attempt to denigrate the Tibetans on Superbowl commercial to the dime store wooden indian memes created in the 1700's/1800's)

 

I'm not one to talk a lot about the 'unseen' and the spirit world; though I do believe in them, as our inner spirit does project/ripple out as ML Smith so aptly stated below.  This little interaction confirms that :-)

 

Thanks :-)

 

p.s. we were able to send a tsunami 'ripple' out this week, flipping the tide as it were, from blindness/denial to the beginning of awareness...

here is how the "American Delusion" is crashing on the rocks.

 

Now? We have to get help people get up, dust off, and get on a healthy path. No longer do we have to sadly hold the "bridge out" sign as spreading eagle poetically states in his allegory.  They are beginning to see that now....and are understandable scared. We have to give compassion, in return for the brutal blows they have been giving in their ignorant flailing about.  This is going to be a trial of patience, eh?

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Comment by Michael John Smith on February 10, 2011 at 10:31am

Just watching is the way to have everything under control. Our thoughts and emotions and what happens to us is the result of our karma - causes bearing fruit under certain conditions.  If we wish to create positive karma and a better future for ourselves and others we have to change our habitual patterns by first pacifying and taming our mind. Of course we cannot go around trying to pacify and tame the minds of others but we can try to emphasize with them and have compassion for them as everyone is really looking for happiness, as the Dalai Lama is continuously reminding us. This working on our own minds will definitely lead to a better world "out there" too. The Zen Master Suzuki Roshi puts it very nicely when he says that when we meditate our spouse meditates, the whole world meditates. This means like ripples in a pond our calmness spreads out to reach all we are in contact with.

Comment by St.Thomas SpreadingEagle on February 10, 2011 at 8:55am

Om Mani Padme Hum.Sitting Rflecting and Watching the Show.Holding a Sign Out the Bridge is out and Watching People Drive off the Bridge.Alas Blessed Presence just to be a Wittness to the Emerging Process of Human Evolution.Something is Dying and Something New is Emerging.Om Mani Padme Hum.St.Thomas SpreadingEagle.

Comment by Michael John Smith on February 10, 2011 at 8:38am

Thanks for your input Lizzy. No, I don't think you are rambling - you have made a couple of interesting points. Yes, I too think dividing everything into two camps - either good or evil - is a little outdated and should be confined to the good old American Westerns, where you had the good guys dressed in white and the bad guys dressed in black just so you couldn't get mixed up. I think nowadays people are realizing there's a lot more grey - an in between - out there.

 

Your second point - that Americans should just "sit" still for a while, reflect, breathe - is I think just the solution we are looking for. Sogyal Rinpoche, a famous Tibetan Buddhist master called all the busy rushing around he witnessed in the West as a form of "active laziness". We are so busy in our everyday life, we just don't have time to consider what really matters.

 

I think like you however that we are at a crossroads in history where more and more people are interested in seeking alternative solutions to simply more and more of everything, represented  by the American Dream. I share the Dalai Lama's optimism that things are improving and we are indeed becoming more and more compassionate as human beings. We just need to be more in touch with our own inner most nature, our own kind heart, which as you rightly say we can best find by sitting still for a while, reflecting and breathing.  

Comment by Patrick Mahoney on July 11, 2009 at 4:04am

Wow, I just saw all this arguments......dont have time to read it all; but think there is some misunderstanding here. Will get back later on this when I have time on computer again .....until then, cease fire, ok? ;-) This is, after all, a site dedicated to HHDL....I'm not sure he would like this discourse.

Comment by Michael John Smith on July 11, 2009 at 3:20am

Looking around the world you won't find a better balance of secular democracy and religious and individual freedom as exists in America. I happen to think it is still a shining example in the world. Of course as a Buddhist there are things I find I cannot agree with such as capital punishment, which I think should be outlawed. I am also dissappointed by the level of greed and power-hungriness existing in American society and certainly much of the so-called American dream does indeed appear to be based on delusion - a delusion that constant growth and insustainable development is a God-given right. However I am optimistic that American society also provides the means for correcting itself - secularist democracy and religious and personal freedom in balance. Also as a Buddhist who follows the Dalai Lama I realise Buddhism is not the only religion and it does not hold a monopoly on compassion, which is really what we all need more of all over the world.

Comment by St.Thomas SpreadingEagle on July 11, 2009 at 1:58am

You have no idea about me either and what I do or not do...becoause I respond to your condecending criticism of me.You attacked me.your awareness is so low you can not see your own nose in front of you.Besides I was not Ranting or Raving.I gave to Articles about the Influence Anne wilson Shaef.Her Book.When Society Becomes The Addict.You Identified me with the Author who were Like Westerner Ranting and Raving.Regardless of there presentation.There Content and Analysis and Observations were Briuant and Insitefull.I doubt you even read the Whole Text including the referenced Articles.I doubt you even read my Last Conclusion and My answer to How Buddhist Dharma is the Solution and Answer for this Country America Delusion.You obviously got Triggered by something in the other Authors Article's,Identified me with Them.I felt by Presnting them in regards to America's Sick Delusion.They being like Doctors I felt hit the Diaognious right on the nail.You made a Condicenting Judgement on me.Condicention is a Superior looking down on a enfinior.There is no equality in your I-It Judgement.I felt no compassion from you.The Good news without blaming me,Since your a Responsible Buddhist.Everything outside of self is a Teacher,You get to look at your Stuff.For that Gift I give you with Compassion you are Welcome.Unless you Choose to be a Victum and not be Responsible.My Teacher Marshall Rosenberg said Condicention is Abusive and Violent.What was real clear in your Critism is You Had not one Good thing to say about My article.Especially if you read the Last part.Your Intention was clear when you where Looking for the Negative.You are Obviously Self Rightious,You wanted to make me Wrong.In NonViolent Communication This is a very Violent and Abusive.I don't apreciate you Abuse.I get that you will be Pissed off when you read this.I will do Tonglen For myself and You.The other Thing I find Interesting when You came to this Discussion is perhaps your in the Wrong Group.You really did not offer any Positive Input to the Discussion.I take that back you did say be Patient,thats good.I derive no value in your condicetion and Critism acept be Patient,Thank You.Mean While I will Take Responsibility for Co-creating this with you.No Blame No Shame,and I will do Lojong/Tonglen for myself and you.Unless you want to attack me for this.You do not Know me.You are a Teacher for me.I will look at my Stuff.Oh,By the way,Om Mani Padme Hum,Eat your popcorn and Go back to Sleep.St.Thomas SpreadingEagle.Shaman Minister.

Comment by rifka-rebecca on July 11, 2009 at 12:04am

you have no idea about me and what i do or not do...because i criticise your methods, you attack me...i am sorry for you

Comment by St.Thomas SpreadingEagle on July 10, 2009 at 11:07pm

Your Very Kind,Thank You.I will Continual Standing at the Bridge thats out with compassion and Kindness telling People the Bridge is Out.I may have to with Intention raise my Vioce to try to Stop them from Drive Off.That is my Motivations.Perhaps you will sit with your Popcorn watch it all and quiet chant Om Mani Padma Hum.Perhaps if there is a Person Lying on the Ground Bleeding maybe its good to not yell for Help.Maybe I should be Like you.Quietly do nothing and Chant Om Mani Padme Hum.Maybe If your House is on Fire I should be Like You and Do nothing and Quietly chant Om Mani Padme Hum.Because if I yell You Might Wake Up.AH,ah,ah,ah,ah.Go back to Sleep.I greatly Question Dharma That has no Subatance or Compassion.I greatly Question your Dharma Rifka-Rebecca,Go back to Sleep,your House is on Fire.I say this to you with all the Compassion and Kindness in my Heart.Go back to Sleep.Sorry to Wake you Up.St.Thomas SpreadingEagle.

Comment by rifka-rebecca on July 10, 2009 at 10:11pm

have patience with what you call 'america'...and keep evolving yourself...raving about what's wrong wastes a lot of energy...be happy love xxxrifka

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